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Yuki · Guest

I have a friend who I believe (although who has not been diagnosed since he has never looked into it) has the Narcissitic Personality Disorder. (I took the Personality Disorder quiz answering what I thought of him and it showed that he had a high percentage in the Narcissistic Personality area)
I was just wondering, are the MBTI results accurate for those who have personality disorders?

Vagabond · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject:

Vylence · Advanced Member Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 193

Way to be uninformative! I am unsure... suposedly each system was made by psychologists... which are the same people that came up with that personality disorder. I would think that if this person really has it, it, must be relatively passive to not be properly diagnosed by now. Of course I really know nothing of this subject.

So, ha ha! I can be uninformative as well!
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Herzblut · Member Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Connecticut

I don't know if this is more of a personality disorder, but my older brother has autism, and he acts a lot like an ESTJ.
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Vagabond · Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject:

Autism and extroversion are sort of excluding each other, I would think.
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Herzblut · Member Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Connecticut

See, it's an interesting thing because my brother has autism, but at the same time, he always goes to dances and soccer, and always wants to socialize with everyone in the same square mile. I guess it depends on the degree of the disorder.
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Kate · Advanced Member Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 34

I would imagine that types are more prone to certain personality disorders. My type ENFP is definitely prone to narcissm. Iwould think ISTJ's are prone to obsessive compulsive disorder.

I'm not sure which type would be most prone to scitzophrenia, INFP?

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jparagons · Guest

I think the personality disorders can generally be represented as extremely high/low scores on one or more personality traits.

Paranoid = low emotional stability + low agreeableness/altruism/etc
Schizoid = high introversion
Schizotypal = high openness, possibly with low orderliness?
Borderline = low emotional stability + low orderliness
Antisocial = low agreeableness/altruism/etc
Histrionic = high extroversion
Narcissistic = high extroversion + low agreeableness/altruism/etc
Avoidant = low emotional stablility + high introversion?/low openness?
Dependent = low emotional stability + high altruism/agreeableness/etc
Obsessive-compulsive = high orderliness

These seem to be the best groupings. Any other ideas?

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Can anyone comment on this:

I have a close friend who is an ISTJ and who is also diagnosed with NPD. You would think the type and the disorder did not go together, but they can. She is just a very uptight, conformity-seeking narcissist! And she is also incredibly judgemental...she elevates it to an art form, really.

Joy · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:28 am Post subject:

I believe that a person's weaknesses are strengths taken to an extreme. I think it happens most often when a person loses their sense of self-worth somehow and "hides" behind their personality style or characteristics.

It's all about how flexible a person is. A healthy person has a tendency toward certain things, but if life demands something else, then they find a way to do what they need to so without it causing too much anxiety. People who are inflexible do not adjust as well to life's demands, and then they end up having a disorder.

So, with the exception of severe mental illnesses, I think that most people can improve their weaknesses and personality disorders by learning to values themselves as they are and yet respect life's demands. There has to be a balance.
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satori · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:09 am Post subject:

Hello

When it comes to personality disorders, the creators of that short test should NOT have broached the subject..and here's why I think this..

Personality disorders are very serious, the very pathos behind them are due to some commonly held viewpoints, even what's considered to be the "norm". I contend that personality disorders are usually the unconscious byproduct of an ego-centric society. In America anyway, appearances reign superior as well as basing a person by what they do, have or/and say. Rather than make value judgements upon what's "real" like what a person does as in how they conduct themselves in relation to their peers. What's "real" is also why people do what they do--intent and motivation. We have lost touch with what's essential in this life, do many others really wonder what's beyond this life? Do others care? It seems that many are hung up on money, control and the abuse of either or both. And what it "looks like".

It's interesting to see how for instance, schiziod types are so out of touch with reality when reality is something only relative to the indidvidual and not the accepted "norm" that society dictates!

I need to finish this post later...

satori

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Joy · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:24 am Post subject:

I totally agree. I was just telling some one about how a therapist said that I have "gender role reversal issues"... I never went back... I was so offended!

Who are you to tell me what my role should be? I decide who and what I am, thank you.
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