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Toby
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Types, anyone?
It's so boring when I do it.
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I'm new to this so I'm not as good / skilled in this as the rest of you, but I think I may try to do this later since I've watched this show.
I've been good at typing my family (as compared to their actual results) but I haven't tried others (fictional or real) much.
Although I may keep my answers to myself until you all post results so as not to make an arse of myself.  |
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Bree Van De Kamp - ESTJ ?
Gabrielle (the hot one) - ESFP
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I couldn't decide between ESTJ or ISTJ for Bree. I think ESTJ works though. But what the heck do I know.
LOL @ "The hot one" for Gabrielle. Because those of us who watch the show wouldn't know that right? heh
So far, just on my first hunch, I get Edie as an ESTP. And I dunno, I was thinking maybe Lynnette as ESTJ. I'm no good at this.
Susan is a bit harder for me...bleh. |
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Susan is total bleh. I got tired of her cutesy shenanigans pretty fast. They were trying too hard to make her America's sweet heart.
ENFP out of control.
You are so right on about Edie though. Definately ESTP.
Bree seems to have social functions constantly. But out of the cast, she is by far the most introverted. So I guess you're right. By the way it's amazing how cold-as-stone T she can be.
Lynnette Scavo... interesting.. I see ESTJ too. It could be because they haven't developed the character very well. She is definitely E_TJ. Her husband is definitely E_FP.
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I have my incredibly uneducated guesses about them all.
I'm still working on it! |
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And I admit, I picked Bree as ISTJ because I am surrounded by ISTJs (boss, husband, one of my best friends) and I may be...shhh..projecting.
She's probably ESTJ. :/ |
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You should type more confidently.
They're just tv characters and this is just for fun, there's no right or wrong answers.
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lol, yeah I know!
It was late. Too much wine + not enough food is always a formula for indecisiveness in my world.
If I get bored today at work I'm gonna do the DH guys... |
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| TS wrote: | lol, yeah I know!
It was late. Too much wine + not enough food is always a formula for indecisiveness in my world.
If I get bored today at work I'm gonna do the DH guys... |
Wine is awesome with food. Oh, the goodness! 
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OK, I've watched this a bit now. And I can't believe how wrong you all are about Bree. Prim, uptight, ladylike, proper. She's plainly the ENFJ from hell! Look at those colour coordinated outfits! The charming perfect hostess, every social occasion orchestrated to a T. She doesn't have a relaxed bone in her body. This kind of stifling perfectionism is a typical ENFJ trait - the velvet straitjacket. Sure, she's solicitous and caring, if you like that kind of caring. (Personally I like the kind of caring that lets me go squish my toes in the mud, or kiss the germy dog, or stay out in the rain just because I feel like it.)
Seen the storyline about Andrew her son letting his parents know he's gay? The dad is like "well whatever makes you happy son." But no no, it's too scandalous to be contemplated, she's got to call in the minister to try and get her boy back on the straight and narrow. And when that doesn't work she tells him "for his own good" that she believes he won't be going to heaven if he doesn't renounce his sexuality. She would do anything to coerce him into being the way she wants him, because she truly believes that who he is, is wrong. The only right way, is her way. I got very similar treatment from my mum (ENFJ).
She is not a T. Bree is not a rational person. She is not ESTJ or ISTJ. What do we care about shaping people's emotions, their very identities? I wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to do that. _STJs are about emotionally sophisticated enough to yell at someone who breaks their rules, that's it. _STJs have tempers - do you ever see Bree scowling, or trying to bully somebody? Browbeat, yes, manipulate, yes, but does she ever raise her voice? Does she ever even frown? No, because unlike _STJs, ENFJs are very uncomfortable with expressions of anger - theirs or other people's.
When her son was extremely rude and disrespectful to her, did she smite him with her _STJ wrath? No, she was crushed, even frightened, with a typical FJ "how could you do this to me" type response. He got the better of her because she couldn't withstand the harshness of him disturbing her precious illusion of harmony with his rudeness - she needed her husband to stand up for her. If she was _STJ, she would've easily withstood the incident. She would have seized him by the ear, and then spent quite some time yelling at him about his behaviour, followed by punishment. All things being equal, nobody out-harshes an _STJ.
Yes, Gabrielle is ESFP and Edie is ESTP. Susan - ENFP is not a type I know so well, but yes, I think that's her. Lynette I will come back to another time. I have to think about her some more. |
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THAT was masterfully COMPELLING.
I believe it!
E_FJ for SURE. But I'm not so sure about the N/S.
Do Lynette Scavo!
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| Toby wrote: | THAT was masterfully COMPELLING.
I believe it!
E_FJ for SURE. But I'm not so sure about the N/S.
Do Lynette Scavo! |
You know I did mean to reply to this. I must've aborted.
Thanks Toby. I would definitely put Bree as ENFJ and not ESFJ. She is elegant and refined to the point of squeamishness and identifies as a "lady". ESFJs are much more down to earth and hands on.
I don't know if I can do Lynette, I haven't seen enough of her yet, but I think ESTP is possible. I don't think she's ESTJ, she doesn't come across detached enough, she's quite into drama and meddling which says Fe to me but I don't think she is an actual F type so she should be a TP type. Her old boss described her as a "shark". |
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Lynnete strikes me as TJ. Perhaps ENTJ.
But yeah F is sometimes very apparent. Yet she makes cold detached decisions like a T.
Maybe she's weak on T.
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| Toby wrote: | | But yeah F is sometimes very apparent. Yet she makes cold detached decisions like a T. |
That should mean she's a TP. She's comfortable expressing and dealing with emotions, her own and other people's, which should = FJ or TP, but in the end she doesn't actually have an F preference and makes T decisions, hence TP. A TJ would likely be far less able to express or deal with emotion. They would have little patience for or ability at the kind of meddling that Lynette indulges in... outright control yes, but emotional manipulation, no.
E.g. a characteristic piece of meddling - when her husband got promoted, while expressing her "enthusiasm" about the promotion to his boss's wife, she deliberately hinted that it would be terrible for their family to have him on the road so much, which ended in the promotion being reversed. A TJ would be less likely to do such things, especially sucessfully. (TJs are a bit of an elephant in a china shop when it comes to emotions, so we try & just stay out of the damn shop!)
I think ESTJ & ENTJ have been suggested because she likes to take charge, but ESTPs do too. And look how overwhelmed she is when it comes to organising her household and her kids. Not that cleaning up after a family is easy for anyone, but E__Js pour formidable energy into organisation, whereas Lynettte is constantly flustered, often appearing flaky and dishevelled. The main time she is more relaxed with her kids is when they go outside and run around.
I think she will be going back to work in the next series here, so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with that. |
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