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agiannas
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a pure ENTP, I created a challenge in my mind. Assuming an ENTP would bother contolling people that may not worth it.. I'm trying to put together a theoritical plan of action that could have chances to lead an ENTP to world dominiation.

However a few discyussion will be necessary in order to get to the final plan.

Draft simplistic plan

Step 1 : Visualise how it would be like (world domination)
Step 2 : Use reverse engineering in order to create the main stages of this 'project'
Step 3 : Identify the possible steps within the stages


Would someone contribute with their ideas? The guidelines for the discussion are:
I) No physical violence should ever be proposed
II) Greek philosophical ideas should not be used (in order to make things a bit challenging)

I'll start with a probable vision of a world dominated/controlled by an ENTP

'The ENTP will finaly be as unique as it goes and in the centre of everyone's attention, while peace, propserity and creative change will be a MUST'

Please feel free to join the conversation and ask me antything
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll start huh?

Why would you want to rule the world? I want to escape from it. Power corrupts, it even corrupts idealistic ENTP's.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, anyone who wants power probably shouldn't have it. The definitions of "creative change" is definitely subjective, so I wouldn't want to demand that of anybody. Instead of a certain personality type ruling, I'd rather it be someone like the Dalai Lama or some other majorly kickass Buddhist person. Perhaps a Buddha.

...ENTPs... well, loads of them are dorks- I would know because I happen to be one and I can spot them. Because everyone has a share of each degree, no one personality type is perfectly fit to rule.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll go with that the only thing that is real is what I see... so I already rule everything.

Though that may be kinda greek.

How 'bout you just own all the banks, seems like then you would rule. Or own all the air, once again you would rule. Which means you could rule with anything that you own as an individual. So just make something that you have indespensible. Which kinda leads back to the problem, most times the thing that people have ownership of, that is individual to only them, is themselves. Which means you would have to make yourself indespencible. Or start trying to control something that which is already indespencible, so back to money.

For that matter if you if you could be the first person to start a controlled space station, and stop everyone else from entering space, you would rule. May take some violence there, but maybe just the threat of.

If you could create a worm that stopped all internet communication, you'd rule for a while.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-i am forever pure.
-what is illusion or the world?
-what is the little soul or god himself?
-one without two.
-i am always the same,
-i sit in my heart.





eNFp is starting it all, keeping it sane and leave it 4 u to tidy up! Razz



Without blame or praise
Anger or rejoicing.

He gives nothing.
He takes nothing.

He wants nothing,
Nothing at all.

-Ashtavakra Gita 17:13
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, what good replies. Yes. The single, I rules everything. It is my world, my illusion, my amusement, my creation. When I totally understand this, I will be a Buddha.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think emulating buddhism means being irrationally content at a lower stage of evolution, so i think the smiling, siting, fat icon of buddhism is very appropriate.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meta wrote:
i think emulating buddhism means being irrationally content at a lower stage of evolution, so i think the smiling, siting, fat icon of buddhism is very appropriate.

Ugh. Solipsism is found at an early stage of development, but... how can you be "rationally discontent," then? Are there things that are intrinsically bad? So terrible that you can't finally ignore and just... be happy?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, that which causes less freedom, less options, less progress, more physical death is bad.... for example, i am not content with sources of energy which destabilize the enviroment and society, so i strive to invent cleaner more renewable sources of energy. i am not content with violence so i strive to understand it's causes and lessen them. i am not content with disease so i strive to maximize health... etc. etc.....
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meta wrote:
yes, that which causes less freedom, less options, less progress, more physical death is bad....  for example, i am not content with sources of energy which destabilize the enviroment and society, so i strive to invent cleaner more renewable sources of energy.  i am not content with violence so i strive to understand it's causes and lessen them.  i am not content with disease so i strive to maximize health... etc. etc.....

Hardy har har, that's still an emotional response. Emotional responses are by nature irrational, and fairly arbitrary. The most rational person probably wouldn't care- much like the true realist. Once you understand that there is nothing that is unquestionably "bad" or "good," nothing is worth it. You cannot be rationally discontent.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think my response is rational. if nothing is good or bad why do you want to be a nun, why bother?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the world was dominated by ENTP(s)

Society would be full of bustling, automated industry, physical labor a thing of the past through the superior inventive finess of the ENTP mind. Rules in general would be much more lax, and the annoying strictness and zero-tolerance attitude of today's pissy society would be crushed. People in general would be happier, and they would also hold many more personal liberties than they do now. The world, a much MUCH greater place Razz ...yes, I'm an ENTP In case you were wondering


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siddhartha was right that desire leads to problems, but it seems to me that without it there is nothing getting done. I am much more in to Taoism, the balance of yin and yang, personally I would ascribe these not to the moon and sun, but to logic and emotion.

Plus I know an ENTP, she is too led by others opinions, not independantly minded enough in my opinion. She'll never go past other peoples thoughts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QUOTE ("meta")
i think my response is rational.  if nothing is good or bad why do you want to be a nun, why bother?
Your thinking is irrational, as many things in existence. Being a nun would be merely a choice. I'm not saying it's good or bad, I'd just want to do it. I do things for the fun of it, not because of some crappy moral code.

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Siddhartha was right that desire leads to problems, but it seems to me that without it there is nothing getting done. I am much more in to Taoism, the balance of yin and yang, personally I would ascribe these not to the moon and sun, but to logic and emotion.

Plus I know an ENTP, she is too led by others opinions, not independantly minded enough in my opinion. She'll never go past other peoples thoughts.
Well, it all depends on if you feel that progress is an ideal. "Yin" and "yang" are also ideals, and ideals can change.

And... are you sure that she was an ENTP? The intuitiveness is what, deep down makes the ENTP such an oddball. It varies on the ENTP, I suppose, because my sister who is very much an ENTP, does have the whole external locus of control dealie, while myself... well, it's very internal.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To keep this talk on ENTP, I'll say she is a good problem solver. She is creative and quick when it comes to solving the problems that present themselves to her. But compared to me she doesn't do any thinking outside her situation.

It was odd to me when I first met her because it was the first time I had typed another person as the thinking type. So I naturally thought we would have very similar trains of thought, but it isn't so.
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