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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 1906, Italian economist and sociologist, Vilfredo Pareto (sometimes misspelled Wilfredo, Alfredo, or Vilfred) created a mathematical formula to describe the uneven income distribution in Switzerland at that time, observing that eighty percent of the wealth was held by a mere twenty percent of the families. Further empirical studies for other time periods, for other countries, produced the stunning result that they all followed the same pattern. (hmmm.... personality types?)

I was just thinking about how irritated most people get when I talk about the world of possibilities each of us has. I'm a HUGE believer in self-fullfilling prophecy, and I know that I'm headed for great successes. I know this because that is what I've decided. I am goal orientated (most of the time) and I know exactly what I want and how I'm going to get it.

I have learned, as hard as it is, that I should not discuss this with most people. They really do not care to hear about it. Most of them have this, "Well, whatever floats your boat... I'll never be that successful... must be nice" kind of attitude. When I try to tell them that I'm no different than they are, that they can have whatever they want to have as well, and the only limits on them are the ones they put on themselves, they get irritated and sometimes even downright nasty!

I can understand this to some extent. People don't like the idea that they may have to stretch. They'd rather spend the best 50 years of their life getting up, going to work, coming home, paying bills, going to bed, getting up, going to work, etc. I understand that this mentality is essential for a society's survival. It just blows me away how nasty people can get when you try to tell them that they have more options and abilities than they think they do.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess if you google and go to the library enough, you have that source of info on how to get some things done. But what kind of education do you have? Do you suppose it's possible to get rich without having a little paper from a university to show off how smart they say you are?

I guess I would be able to make my way to the top if only I pointed my tunnel vision up a little. lol
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is indeed all about direction. If you want to get somewhere, which would be a more effective way of doing so:

1.) Looking around and driving whichever way looked best at the time, or
2.) Pulling out a map, figuring out where you are, where you want to go, and how to get there, and then heading off

"Give me a stock clerk with a goal and I'll give you a man who will make history. Give me a man with no goals and I'll give you a stock clerk."
-J. C. Penney (James Cash)

Education doesn't matter... not much does, in fact, other than the right attitude.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

idunno wrote:
... Do you suppose it's possible to get rich without having a little paper from a university to show off how smart they say you are?

yes, just look at all those a-list actors.
but i think your point is more "do you suppose it's possible to get rich without having definite goals and working towards them?", such as a university degree or a lead role or ... whatever floats your boat. Razz
and i agree with joy in that most people only get so far in life because they tell themselves that is all they can do. i don't have any definite goals right now (i think i'm too young to decide on anything like that) but i certainly don't want to end up as you describe. i'm going on exchange next year, for a whole year, and i'm out of my mind with excitement. i'm hoping (well i know) it will lead on to something, be it fluency in another language and eventually working in that country, or more language learning, or study in another part of the world, more opportunities to travel or whatever .... i want to aim high. i don't like the idea of staying in this city, or even this country - i don't know what i'll be doing but i want it to be something that i have to work to get.

it's all about attitude. some people don't think studying or living abroad is even a possibility when it's something anyone can do if they put their mind to it. sure, some might not be ale to afford it ... but what are part-time jobs and scholarships for??? it's up to you, not the conditions you were born in to.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joy, just out of curiousity:
what do you want and how exactly will you get it?
if it involves top-secret hostile takeover plans and somebody's assassination, you dont have to tell me, i wont be offended.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all due respect, I have to disagree with the "attitude is everything" mentallity. Of course this is a benefit, but only for those who possess the instruments necessary to reach their desired endstate. No matter how good a salesman you are, and how positive your worldview, you will fail without a quality product to peddle. I see people everyday who have far loftier goals than most(and more confidence), yet are left in the corporate dust by smarter, less ambitious employees. Although it gives everyone a warm & fuzzy to think so, attitude doesn't enable one to speak in an articulate manner, solve a problem, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My plans are to be a top Real Estate investor internationally. My being a home inspector serves the purpose of keeping food on the table, allowing me to have fun, and helps me achieve my lond term goals.

And just like it's not all about hard work, it's also not all about attitude. Yes, both play a big role, but alone are not enough. Setting clear goals is of utmost importance, and the most important thing is to work smart (not just hard). IMO sales can only get you so far unless you're working in a direct marketing company like Mary Kay.

It's all about the passive income!!!! :ph34r:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats very true Rearden, but the truth is that most all of us have the necessary equipment to reach our goals, whether we realize it or not. We will never utilize those tools unless we believe we have them. You're missing the point, as usual.
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