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Mayflow
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Zen Thread Reply with quote

http://www.dailyzen.com/zen/zen_reading0712.asp
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One not bound by the clouds
flies in the skies
in silent Freedom's
beautiful light

Only one who can hear these words
can feel this flight

- Mayflow -

"It's so sweet tonight"
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mayflow wrote:
One not bound by the clouds
flies in the skies
in silent Freedom's
beautiful light

Only one who can hear these words
can feel this flight

- Mayflow -

"It's so sweet tonight"



fly high, so high you fly
high flying high so high you fly
fly high high flyer flying high so high flying higher Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dream on. May all your dreams lead to the light. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In any circumstances, abandon
all hopes of anything and give up
all fears of anything,
and let go of sadness too

Recognize that hopes and fears are the
Magical display of your own mind
of primordial purity, and
Choose goodness over badness

(for goodness sake! Laughing)

Realize that your intrinsic beingnessess
of you yourselves
are the only
all-pervading truths

and

Remain in that state where
Perceiver and perceived are as one
Let go into the immaculate space
of the Great Perfection beyond

AND realize then, my friends
that which is Zen! Very Happy

- Mayflow
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't you already had a bunch of zen and buddhist and spiritual threads?
I understand that it is not a small issue, to be confined in only one thread
But it seems to me there are many strong similarities between your threads
and not a strong market for them.
I would urge you to keep on exploring and sharring
but perhaps centralizing your topics a bit more Smile
It would be easier to find information when we desire if it was not spread out too far
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C.Beck wrote:
Haven't you already had a bunch of zen and buddhist and spiritual threads?
I understand that it is not a small issue, to be confined in only one thread
But it seems to me there are many strong similarities between your threads
and not a strong market for them.
I would urge you to keep on exploring and sharring
but perhaps centralizing your topics a bit more Smile
It would be easier to find information when we desire if it was not spread out too far


Interestingly enough, I had a discussion with my Russian Physicist friend
this very same day about this very same topic. Intensiveness verses
Extensiveness. We are both in the extensiveness category.

ps another thingy, if you may pallease, is that I do not take extremely
kindly to people telling me what to do or micromanaging me. I'll simply
rebel and do the opposite so your post becomes rather counter-productive, don't
you see? You are only encouraging me. Wink

Intuition 101, baby-doll! Laughing

ps. Did you like the "imperturbable" answer in the "word" thread? Word! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

breaking bad
we do
remembering friends
we choose
looking up in new directions
with dark wide wings
enclose 'me'
we soar
we soar!!
ohh we have soared so far
chains we break
seeing them for what they are
resistance fades
i look around and wonder how!
i marvel!!
there's noone to stop us now.
noone
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mayflow wrote:
C.Beck wrote:
Haven't you already had a bunch of zen and buddhist and spiritual threads?
I understand that it is not a small issue, to be confined in only one thread
But it seems to me there are many strong similarities between your threads
and not a strong market for them.
I would urge you to keep on exploring and sharring
but perhaps centralizing your topics a bit more Smile
It would be easier to find information when we desire if it was not spread out too far


Interestingly enough, I had a discussion with my Russian Physicist friend
this very same day about this very same topic. Intensiveness verses
Extensiveness. We are both in the extensiveness category.

ps another thingy, if you may pallease, is that I do not take extremely
kindly to people telling me what to do or micromanaging me. I'll simply
rebel and do the opposite so your post becomes rather counter-productive, don't
you see? You are only encouraging me. Wink

Intuition 101, baby-doll! Laughing

ps. Did you like the "imperturbable" answer in the "word" thread? Word! Laughing


Ah, yes, well i guess i'm an optimist.
I soldier on Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a high ideal, to reach such an unattached state as Zen prescribes. When I was younger, I used to strive to achieve spiritual enlightenment, which I defined in mostly Buddhist terms. I do believe there is a God, but that to get to Him we must first pass through the inner emptiness. If we turn to God directly, we turn not to Him, but to a temporary construct, cashed out in terms of social mores and organizations, shoulds, and oughts, that have nothing to do with objectivity. Do I yearn for meaning? Is that what drives my quest? I would answer yes, but that the same is true for all humanity, regardless of level of awareness of it. It is my opinion that even our modern age of information technology emerged from this drive for meaning. Can we simply transcend it, and if so, should we let go of the belief in God? Can I be intelelctually honest and believe in God? I believe I can, but in a sense it takes the form of a hope, or an inkling of something greater, egging me on the path of progress. Of course, I could be a quack, all this talk of God and emptiness and things I cannot prove. Maybe there is nothing greater. Maybe this is all there is. Maybe I should be satisfied with it. Even though it lacks meaning. Even though there is this need within myself that needs fulfilling. So I turn to the emptiness, believing in that distant goal of something greater, striving to forge meaning in my life, and in the process, relax into what is and be, for once, truly content.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Do I yearn for meaning? Is that what drives my quest? I would answer yes, but that the same is true for all humanity, regardless of level of awareness of it."

hmm, well lucky for 'humanity' that they are not bound to assumptions. Many do not yearn for anything, let alone meaning. Perhaps definition is what many yearn for, but are they yearning for ir, or are they living it? Is that really a question?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The purest reasoning system sees clearly what is 'God'. Meaning true science sees/meets God. Having pure awareness, is to have the reasoning system that meets 'God'. To become aware of 'God'.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zen, like the word God, is a powerful opiate.

The State is a close second Sad

*Sigh*

Life...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jhyana wrote:
Zen, like the word God, is a powerful opiate.

The State is a close second Sad

*Sigh*

Life...


Has life been kicking you in the balls lately?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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