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OnFire
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| invicta wrote: | | It is more about appearances and ego fulfillment than it is about loving the other person. It is a preemptive jealousy, a possessiveness that imo has no place in a relationship between self actualized people. |
So basically you are saying the same as me in the "love does not exist"-topic? :huh:
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worstever6
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| Well who said jealousy is a bad thing? I personally love jealousy. It's my second emotion. Anger then Jealousy. Wow, if Yoda is right I'm all set for the dark side. |
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invicta
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| Quote: | | So basically you are saying the same as me in the "love does not exist"-topic? |
Love does exist though.
It is the social rules and expectations that confuse. |
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embers
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| invicta wrote: | | Why is exclusivity and possesiveness the pinnacle of achievement? |
because love should make you blind?
And I say should because I agree with you. Love DO exist people just dont know where to look for it, because they are too hung up social status and superficial things. |
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invicta
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Yes, I did end up watching a movie recommended to me on this forum, Wings of Desire. There is a lot to it, since it was in German there were subtitles to I was able to pause it and write down some of the dialogue, it was a story of an angel (thankfully not presented in any religious context, but just as a learned, wise being on a non-physical plane of existence) that fell in love with a circus performer. The angel became a being of matter like us, and when the woman he fell in love with also fell in love with him she said "the story of a man and a woman, ours is the greatest story ever told".
And it is.
Later, at the end of the film, the angel reflects upon his experience:
Something happened.
It is still going on.
It binds me.
It was true at night, and it's true in the day.
Even more so now
Who was who?
I was in her and she was around me.
Who in the world can claim that he was ever together with another being?
I am together
No mortal child was begot...but an immortal, common image.
I learned astonishment that night.
She came to me to take me home.
And I found home.
It happened once...only once and therefore forever.
The picture that we have craeted will be with me when I die.
I will have lived within it
First the amazement about the two of us, amazement about man and woman...has made a human being of me.
I know now what no angel knows.
I wanted to share that, i thought it captured the timelessness of the universal love story. I am being quite sentimental today. <_< |
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Daj
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| invicta wrote: |
Something happened.
It is still going on.
It binds me.
It was true at night, and it's true in the day.
Even more so now
Who was who?
I was in her and she was around me.
Who in the world can claim that he was ever together with another being?
I am together
No mortal child was begot...but an immortal, common image.
I learned astonishment that night.
She came to me to take me home.
And I found home.
It happened once...only once and therefore forever.
The picture that we have craeted will be with me when I die.
I will have lived within it
First the amazement about the two of us, amazement about man and woman...has made a human being of me.
I know now what no angel knows.
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Beautiful dialogue. I can relate this to my life very much right now. |
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