|The Troll Emperor of Doom
Joined: 14 Dec 2008
|Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: Help me break this down
According to that website, as of the time of this post, Iraq war cost 606 billion dollars. Alright, fine, no problem. I do not know if that covers the cost of building all those Humvees in the plant in Kuwait at the beginning of the war.
This brings me to a question- if we can produce enough humvees to match nearly every squad, more often than not team (5 guys), in Iraq to operate in from the american side, and supply a shit load to the Iraqis to blow up at thier own accord driving reckless as can be.... why is the auto industry such a hassle with the bailouts? Why can't we just outright build via contracted engineers from the US government, like we do with military vehicles, create a decent hybrid internal system for vehicles, let the crappy corporations like GM use it as part of the bailout- force them to use it (not as their exclusive product, but none the less have to offer it)- make it affordable, and give them a launching board to move foreward with their new remade factory?
This would be good in two regards, 1: US fleet would be increasingly fuel efficient, because WE, our government, designed the damn engine and can therefor mass order it cheaper without having to pay outrageous R&D and manufacturing fees- we would know what it would be compatible with, and can freely experiment with it, trying it with our various systems without worrying what the civilian corps would say/sue. 2: The cost of the automotive bailouts would certainly produce a new product, and if we supply the machinery and the factory- they could offer their product way cheaper, having to only worry about employment costs and materials for manufacturing. Yes, employment costs is a issue, but we could handle that end if we knew something real was coming out for sure.
My question about the banks: Are we moving foreward with breaking some of these up? I can understand the bailout issue... alright... not a issue with me bailing out supermega will kill all currency banks, but instead of bailing out banks, from my understanding, banks can sell loans to other banks- how about selling A PERCENTAGE of really bad, about to forclose mortgages and collapsing loans belonging to families to the FDIC, to place into a bank of their (FDIC) choice with so much loan money to back them, say a few payments on average for each? This way, bad investiments disappear out of the books of bad bans, making them more attractive- and thats the very moment we break them up into smaller, healthier, nimbler units without all the financial baggage weighing them down? We could freeze those mortgages for as long as we want to before moving them to a new bank to be paid off as usual, a few months if we cared. Let them get back into financial straits.
Third- AIG, I am completely at a lost as to how Obama wants to own AIG and launch a separate near universal medical/socialist system by keeping them seperate.... I say if he is going to do it, might as well buy out the last 20 percent of this company, establish a cabinet position over it, and use thier shithead expertise in the endeavor, cause I have discovered two things- 1: I do not understand how a American socialist system is suppost to work, and 2: Obama clearly does not understand how a American Socialist system is suppost to work. Insurance has traditionally filled that gap in a capitalist system- insurance is about as stupid and thickheaded as the concept of socialism itself, and can work only as long as only a portion trys to exploit it at any given time. AIG sucks, they are a bunch of sneaky sharks, but they undoubtedly have experience in knowing American expectations to insurance needs..... far more than any political politician. I say, take them over, personally sell off the foreign branches, and if we stick with socialism, expand that 'department', and if not, reduce and reduce until it no longer exist. It wasn't a good idea to buy it in the first place, but I mean, come on, we own 80 PERCENT! We might as well just to gain firm control over it, we can make the laws necessary to chapter 7 or 11 it in a year or two, encouraging other companies to buy the books.
I am pretty damn sure it is cheaper for the US government to build the plants, and sell it supercheap to amerian businesses. We can build a few alternative energy manufacturers like windmill plants or so on. I know from the kuwait humvee factory this is legal, we can build it, dictate the product, and in the end sell the damn thing off for corporate use or pack it in mothballs.
I do not think my plan would be trillions upon trillions. no bank except perhaps AIG would be bought out, CITI never would of been bailed out, just individual loans harvested for the freeze. I would of been pissed had it gone over 1 trillion total, all around, for my economic stimulas.
You take the badness out of the banks to a high enough degree that you can operate.... you guarantee green product beyond a doubt can and will be produced.... a portion of the dying, ill mortage markets goes into cryo until IRS can brainstorm a way for them to climb out. People... government can own land - it''s called public lands, we've been doing it for a while, primary concern is preventing fire hazards. A foreclosed home doesn't pay anyone anything- be it those contractors who built it or the banks forced to maintain them while empty. Might as well take some on gov hands and freeze the financial bill, I seriously doubt the market will miss them any time in the short term.
I would think about pulling out of NATO before cutting the Military R&D programs, DARPA has been a far more reliable ally than the Europeans over the years in ensuring american security and military superiority.... cause we know our gear is going to be next to us if shit hits the fan, and we also know Canada, Germany, and France will be hiding underneath the bed. Do you think European NATO cares about US border concerns? Caribbean pirates? North Korea hitting Alaska with a missle? No. They only care about themselves, and have proved it loud and clear from almost the start of this new century. If you have to make a massive cut on government spending, do it there. I think the Europeans are wealthy enough to pay for themselves now, given the look of the Euro. Time for America to look after America in the way Europe has fanatically only looked out for itself.