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[Sara Davis]

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[jacknife]

Fresh hot ESTJ's coming soon to an area near you. Stay tuned ...

[Heather Harrison]

Actually, seriously, I would love to see some descriptions from ESTJs since (being essentially the opposite of an ESTJ) I find that I don't understand ESTJs well even though I encounter them frequently. Are there any ESTJs here who are willing to describe themselves?

Heather Harrison

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Me ne chide wit þe gidie, ne wit þan ofne me ne 3onie.<br><br>Rational Idealist - INFP with strong INTP tendencies<br>

[infj]

Yes, I'd like to hear some to as ESTJ's are supposed to be the type most compatible with my type according to www.socionics.com. ESTJ's don't seem to want to post much, there are only four messages on this thread.

[VJDisney]

I have taken these tests many times and always come up ESTJ.

I tend to be extremely orderly and don't go outside the box. Rules always apply. I work as management in a Union environment and firmly beleive that if emotion were not allowed into play then we would not need a union as sitiuations would be consistent and no one could complain of preferential treatment.

I am a social butterfly and also work as a professional VJ in clubs but don't necessarily like the social butterfly aspect. I find it hard to maintain as many friends as it drains on my time and I find many hurt saying I don't spend enough time with them. People like me because my satyrical (sp?) humour is funny.

Not sure what else I could say!

[MrDisney]

just registered so people can contact me!

[Guest]

ESTJ: self-confident, organized, practical, unintelligent, aggressive, nervous, likes to control others, bossy, nagging, fake, selfish, achiever, hard-worker, popular, ressourceful, respects authority, reliable, disciplined, trustworthy

[RussellB]

I read up on another site about different relationships between different personality types.

These were mainly male - female partner relationships but I often wonder if an ENFP (like myself) in general would have trouble getting on with an ESTJ in a workplace environment,the reason I ask this is because I came out of a workplace here in Australia where a group of people gave me a hard time,the conflict partner for an ESTJ was listed as an INFP,the differences were :-

- I didn't follow general unwritten rules,like in this place they had a clique in the organization where the clique had its rules,everybody was just expected to follow them to the last degree but I just did what I wanted,how I wanted,people didn't like that,I was only concerned with keeping the bosses happy as I had some harmony with them but not the workers.

- I class myself as being a fine intelligent person,they were stupid pigs and while some did work hard they only did what they needed to to whereas I did more than was required,I also see myself as being full of energy and needed to do something to relieve the pressure as if I didn't keep myself occupied I figured I would go crazy in the line of work I was doing.

Note I did get on o.k. with some of these people when I finally got to know them but then they turned against me when they heard I reported one of them as he was being obnoxious,that was enough to make me take drastic measurements but I also did it because I heard he was trying to get me out of that department.

- Those people thought I was strange coming to work on a Monday morning in a cheerful mood as they hated the place,I couldn't find a bad enough reason not to like it but they seemed to,they gave me a hard time about my cheerful attitude,they thought I was strange wanting to come to work,this is telling me they have the sensing and judging tendencies I don't have,they base their thoughts in reality and can't stand me because I use my imagination to get me through the day,I was also a daydreamer when I was a kid (NF - idealist).

- I liked to multiskill in that place,ended up learning a few different skills in a normally regimented environment where they normally pigeon holed people,management didn't mind me doing that but the other workers didn't like the idea because they thought I was going to take their jobs,also it was just the fact I did things differently,they tried to box me in and tie me down and I did warn a few people about my temperament,I went right over the top and reported a number of people to the senior manager who could've sacked them on the spot if need be,they thought I was crazy after that.

- Regarding my approach some people view me as still being a kid,I am polite with people and I expect (nearly demand) other people treat me the same way,others would shout abuse to each other as a common form of communication,that's not my style,as I mentioned they were as refined as apes.

- I have a different value system,it didn't hurt them to cheat on their timesheets by putting down hours for jobs they never did,they tried to get me to do the same thing but I blatantly refused to do it,they kept on telling me to do it but I kept on refusing, I also liked to stay back 15 minutes after work to tie loose ends up,the rest would start knocking off 15 -20 minutes beforehand,I was given a bit of a hard time about that too.

- Regarding to how I connected to people I am a networker,I like to maintain my individuality rather than play follow the leader but I still like interacting with people and being in a group sometimes,I get bored with a group then I stray,when I am talking one on one with a person,which might be away from a group,someone asked me why I do that and I couldn't answer them till I found out what my personality was,I might talk one on one but I can talk to a few people at once but still like to network with a wide variety of people,an ESTJ demands that a person fit into a group and likes to be subjugated.

- I have the patience of a saint,also have a high degree of empathy towards people and try to avoid hurting others,these ESTJ's seem to be insensitive to others,basically not to care about someone elses feelings,for example,if someone was yelling at me I would wait till they calmed down then I would ask them what they are feeling,these other people get impatient and would yell back,I can also pick up on what's not said which is frustrating for ESTJ's.


- ESTJ's tended to find my ability to pull ideas out of my head to be mind boggling,
I tried reasoning with these people but I only ended up having personality clashes with them.


As I mentioned,I like the company of a whole range of people,some think it is odd to enjoy being around aunts & uncles but I love it,in that industry I was working with I tried to be friends with everyone from the cleaner upwards,I tried to get back into the same industry only a different department only to find some of these people ratted on me to human resources,this means I may never get a job there for a long while.

So ENFP - ESTJ as work colleagues ,bad match ???

[Daniel]

I just took the test and it's ESTJ....i do not agree in everything is says because I rely on my intuition.....
organized, group oriented, focused, leader, emotionally stable, attention seeking, planner, realistic, fearless, responsible, finisher, decisive, norm following, punctual, hard working, self confident, follows the rules, clean, outgoing, social, content, does not like being alone, normal, regular, does not like weird or strange people / things - intolerant of differences, strict, disciplined, aggressive, assertive, content, happy, proper, formal

favored careers:
executive, ceo, supervisor, business consultant, manager, strategist, financial planner, business person, office manager, public relations manager, international business specialist, business analyst, management consultant, operations manager, loan officer, lawyer, marketing, sports management, government employee, investment banker

disfavored careers:
poet, artist, songwriter, musician, novelist, art therapist, theatre teacher, art curator, film editor, video game designer, photo journalist, travel writer, actor, record store owner, camera operator, art historian, music teacher B)

[Guest_Keith]

ESTJ: self-confident, organized, practical, intelligent, aggressive, achiever, hard-worker, popular, ressourceful, respects authority, reliable, disciplined, trustworthy are all true but there is also happy, level emotions, not easily discouraged, optimistic, fearless, self confident, non-hostile, trusting, rarely sad, social, content, positive, knows where life is going, socially skilled, not quiet around strangers, acts comfortably with others, takes on responsibilities, likes public speaking, not prone to worrying, not apprehensive about new encounters, flexible, adapts easily to new situations, not afraid to draw attention to self, likes to lead, not bored while working, likes others, hard to annoy, calm in crisis, does not second guess self, not embarrassed easily, high energy level, easy to understand, thinks before acting, strong sense or purpose, likes crowds, interested in science, not prone to jealousy, comfortable in unfamiliar situations, fearless, not skeptical, true to self in all circumstances, highly motivated to succeed, decisive, easy to get to know, narcissistic, driven by reason, physically fit, passionate about bettering the world's condition, finishes most things they start, not easily confused, willing to explain things twice, thinks they are extraordinary. Well at least I am that way B) B) B)

[Guest]

Just took the test and it completely describes me (a pre-med fraternity president).

Everything except "intolerance of differences," i am very much open to different kinds of people. But, I gotta say the rest is right on.

[darkhorse]

I'm a ENTJ/ESTJ/INTJ... haha.. but i guess that i have ESTJ traits more (the hardworking part)

[krissyjholmes]

I am an ENFP, and my sister is an ESTJ, we don't get along at all...She seems to be so full of herself, and she loves to argue. I swear it is a sport for her. Plus she is so bossy and always assumes she is right. How the heck am I supposed to get along with her? She drives me nuts...all she talks about is work and how people at work aren't doing their jobs right and how it makes her job harder...If you hate your job so much, quit...that is what I would do...anyways, any advice on how an ENFP and an ESTJ can get along?
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