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Ok, so for the first time in years I'm spending significant amounts of time around an SP. And I'm just not used to it. If somebody has strong Ni or Ne, they just seem to be easier to communicate with, or at least to. They get nuances, depths of things, tones, colours (especially if NF). Ss have to have everything spelled out. It's like talking bricks. They skate across the most shallow and immediate meaning that comes to hand, perhaps missing many of the implications of what is said. They just don't like to discuss things in depth. If you want to get something across to them you have to find some way of putting it really clearly and step by step. I knew this, but I'm rediscovering it from a practical standpoint.  |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| zillah wrote: | | It's like talking bricks. |
Now I won't get any sleep tonight. Damn.
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Are you calling me an S? 
Of course I often reply to things literally because there's a few seconds delay between understanding what a person said and understanding what they actually meant, but still...
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:06 am Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| zillah wrote: | | Ok, so for the first time in years I'm spending significant amounts of time around an SP. And I'm just not used to it. If somebody has strong Ni or Ne, they just seem to be easier to communicate with, or at least to. They get nuances, depths of things, tones, colours (especially if NF). Ss have to have everything spelled out. It's like talking bricks. They skate across the most shallow and immediate meaning that comes to hand, perhaps missing many of the implications of what is said. They just don't like to discuss things in depth. If you want to get something across to them you have to find some way of putting it really clearly and step by step. I knew this, but I'm rediscovering it from a practical standpoint. :) |
geeze, the part i bolded almost makes ya sound like an intj. makes me think you are really close to being one :)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| nonentropic wrote: | | zillah wrote: | | Ok, so for the first time in years I'm spending significant amounts of time around an SP. And I'm just not used to it. If somebody has strong Ni or Ne, they just seem to be easier to communicate with, or at least to. They get nuances, depths of things, tones, colours (especially if NF). Ss have to have everything spelled out. It's like talking bricks. They skate across the most shallow and immediate meaning that comes to hand, perhaps missing many of the implications of what is said. They just don't like to discuss things in depth. If you want to get something across to them you have to find some way of putting it really clearly and step by step. I knew this, but I'm rediscovering it from a practical standpoint. |
geeze, the part i bolded almost makes ya sound like an intj. makes me think you are really close to being one |
Naw, it's just that Ne is universally awesome.
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Hmm... I'm not like that. I like things to be said as clearly and simply as possible, but that's really a matter of efficiency than anything else. I have no problems with underlying meaning or sussing the truth out of an awkwardly phrased statement. That may be because of the attention I pay to non-verbal communication and the general feelings people put out.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| zillah wrote: | | Ok, so for the first time in years I'm spending significant amounts of time around an SP. And I'm just not used to it. If somebody has strong Ni or Ne, they just seem to be easier to communicate with, or at least to. They get nuances, depths of things, tones, colours (especially if NF). Ss have to have everything spelled out. It's like talking bricks. They skate across the most shallow and immediate meaning that comes to hand, perhaps missing many of the implications of what is said. They just don't like to discuss things in depth. If you want to get something across to them you have to find some way of putting it really clearly and step by step. I knew this, but I'm rediscovering it from a practical standpoint. |
Haha, I find part of the case with an N-type is that you can have a conversation about virtually anything. When there's nothing important to be spoken about, you could talk about the differing gradients of bricks or why acid rain might make it problematic to stick your tongue out and taste the snow. S-types seem to value conversational integrity a little more. They find it important to speak and perhaps even limit their conversation to when there is something of substance or value.
But again, I'm generalizing. There are solid exceptions to either trend.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| Annabel_Lee wrote: | | zillah wrote: | | Ok, so for the first time in years I'm spending significant amounts of time around an SP. And I'm just not used to it. If somebody has strong Ni or Ne, they just seem to be easier to communicate with, or at least to. They get nuances, depths of things, tones, colours (especially if NF). Ss have to have everything spelled out. It's like talking bricks. They skate across the most shallow and immediate meaning that comes to hand, perhaps missing many of the implications of what is said. They just don't like to discuss things in depth. If you want to get something across to them you have to find some way of putting it really clearly and step by step. I knew this, but I'm rediscovering it from a practical standpoint. |
Haha, I find part of the case with an N-type is that you can have a conversation about virtually anything. When there's nothing important to be spoken about, you could talk about the differing gradients of bricks or why acid rain might make it problematic to stick your tongue out and taste the snow. S-types seem to value conversational integrity a little more. They find it important to speak and perhaps even limit their conversation to when there is something of substance or value.
But again, I'm generalizing. There are solid exceptions to either trend. |
I know I can talk about anything.
That annoys people apparantly.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| Fathergia wrote: | | Annabel_Lee wrote: | Haha, I find part of the case with an N-type is that you can have a conversation about virtually anything. When there's nothing important to be spoken about, you could talk about the differing gradients of bricks or why acid rain might make it problematic to stick your tongue out and taste the snow. S-types seem to value conversational integrity a little more. They find it important to speak and perhaps even limit their conversation to when there is something of substance or value.
But again, I'm generalizing. There are solid exceptions to either trend. |
I know I can talk about anything.
That annoys people apparantly. |
One should speak about anything more often.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| Annabel_Lee wrote: | | Haha, I find part of the case with an N-type is that you can have a conversation about virtually anything. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| Fathergia wrote: | I know I can talk about anything.
That annoys people apparantly. |
I can talk about anything. But I won't.
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| Isra wrote: | | Hmm... I'm not like that. I like things to be said as clearly and simply as possible, but that's really a matter of efficiency than anything else. I have no problems with underlying meaning or sussing the truth out of an awkwardly phrased statement. That may be because of the attention I pay to non-verbal communication and the general feelings people put out. |
It seems like its always the ISTPs who disagree with stereotypical S-things... I think we're the least "S-y" of the Ss. heh.
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| Rocky wrote: | | Isra wrote: | | Hmm... I'm not like that. I like things to be said as clearly and simply as possible, but that's really a matter of efficiency than anything else. I have no problems with underlying meaning or sussing the truth out of an awkwardly phrased statement. That may be because of the attention I pay to non-verbal communication and the general feelings people put out. |
It seems like its always the ISTPs who disagree with stereotypical S-things... I think we're the least "S-y" of the Ss. heh. |
Your dominant function is Ti, so you may come across as logical, thinking people first and foremost, as do INTPs. Since everyone uses all functions to some degree, sorting out Ne vs. Se may be less clear cut, especially when convolved with individual differences.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| Romana wrote: | | Fathergia wrote: | I know I can talk about anything.
That annoys people apparantly. |
I can talk about anything. But I won't. |
I can and I do
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: N/S communication differences |
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| Fathergia wrote: | | Romana wrote: | | Fathergia wrote: | I know I can talk about anything.
That annoys people apparantly. |
I can talk about anything. But I won't. |
I can and I do |
Talk about the significance between Quasars and fireflies, proving your thesis mathematically.
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