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Vylence
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha Ha Crash, you were bored when you came here huh? Thanks for the sentiment. Though I like to believe I'm in total responsible for myself.

And now for some comments in the general. INTPs, from my experience, work out to be enneagram type 5s alot of the time. Unfortunatly I'm type 9. This does make some diffrences. I would say that everyone here should find out their enneagram type as well and come to understand it. The two systems could stand side by side.

To the person who said they have trouble seeing how a test with questions could catagorize a person. Why not? People could be just like complexe equations. They just need simplification.

Also I believe that type INTJ is rarer than INTP. Though I could be wrong. They may just be the type who stays off the internet.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weird, i dont think i have come to know in person any INTP as yet..
maybe they re the rarest type.

some articles i read in the past suggest INFJ, INTJ and INTP are the rarest

i test as an xtreme INTJ, the descriptions of in typelogic.com and personalitypage.com couldnt be more accurate.

Seems the more extreme, the more close to the books descriptions.
i also read somewhere that many INTPs often mistakingly test as INTJs and the opposite, and it seems those two types often dont get along well together B)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greco, you ought to go figure out your enneagram type. See if it also correlates to you.

In real life... I don't think I've met another INTP, but then again I don't analyze everyone I meet.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are situations when an INTP is not adaptable at all, especially when one of his or her principles is broken. If an INTP is not adaptable anymore then something is going on. It's a good time to analyze himself or herself. It's not easy to do it, because the things we do naturally are hard to see.

Many of us (I think) are stuck in jobs that do not match our temperament profile. With all the teamwork mania going on in the business community, its hard to get by with I love working alone without being labelled not a team player. Not that I dont see the benefits of teamwork, but we do our best work alone.
We achieve full potential working alone and in a flexible work environment which fosters creativity, originality, and offers a lot of money.

If anyone knows of companies that welcomes INTPs please post them on the forum. So far I heard that KFC would be such a company.
In addition, I would love to hear what kind of jobs are other INTPs doing.

I am a computer programmer analyst, worked some years as an IT consultant, some years teaching IT. Now, Im back in school trying to become a Marketing Analyst (business intelligence, data analyst, CRM, stuff like this, but not selling or advertising). Im 35 years old, live in Toronto, Canada and dream of working overseas.

I have met one INTJ but never another INTP. Well, I am talking about people that know their personality type. I noticed the J part very fast. They are very bright and it is said that while we are the architects (of anything) they are the builders. They build what we design. He found me a very interesting person. He was more interested in listening to my ideas that talk himself.


Now at the end of my post I realized how long it has become. If you have read so far I tank you for that.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I come out as INTJ in several online tests, including the ones here, abt 85% in I, N and T and 60% on J. In the enneagram tests i got 5w6

Interesting that KFC is looking for INTPs. I dont know if i would take that as a compliment or an insult if i was one ( kidding
Razz )
You know what i think is the impression of most people on INTPs? They recognize they are dealing with something big when in your presence, but they have no idea how to handle it. Probably the same with most businesses who officially like to advertise themselves as looking for innovative, unconventional thinkers etc etc.
In reality they're looking for someone to shut up and do what everybody else does, and when they have an INTP in their hands they have no idea how to use his insights. Sad but..

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After taking several tests in the middle of the night my conclusion is now that I am most readily classified as an INTP. As the night/morning wears on however I finally stumbled onto INTJ... I think it is because of the late hour.

In response to the "mimicry" trait:

As a young person raised in America but born in Nigeria, I have to deal with many "forms" of the english language.
I do not use ebonics, nor do I speak "valley-girl", however I have been known to "dumb-down" my normal speech one or two notches if after the first few sentences show that I should. It is not because I think ebonics-speakers and valley-girls/boys are stupid. No, it's because I try to avoid situations where I have to explain what comes natually to me. All my conversations start off the same and filter very quickly into a mode or catergory.

I think INTP people aren't mimicking, but are compensating. Avoidance of the "accent" or "snob" issue and questions like, "Why do you speak so stuck up?" or "Are you from England or something?" or even the worst, "Why try to be white?" is most possibly the reason for this. I don't speak perfect English, and my spoken grammar is sometimes inventive, however we (INTP types) find that it is better to save our energy for something worth it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I type out as an extreme INTP.
I also have the mimicry trait, but only towards people I like/respect. If I think someone's a moron, goodbye respect, politeness, and hello abrasive arsehole. From what I've seen on another INTP forum (www.intpcentral.com), it's not a rare trait, though.
Mostly I agree with the post here, but there is a site that has a good description of some of the negative traits of an INTP. To be INTP. Read it, it's good.

EDIT: Poking around reveals that the ENTJ forum is alone in having no posts other than the one that created it. Are there no ENTJ's in these forums?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm also an extreme INTP. its really hard cuz i'm at college and now that i'm thrown into a whole new situation with no one i know, i come off as anti-social. i have many friends at home, but they're all people who've known me for 10 years and understand that my reluctance to show emotion doesn't mean that i don't like them. one thing i disagree with on this site it "does not like happy people". i consider myself a very happy person, but that might just be because i've never thought that having poor people skills is a bad thing, and i know that i could never go against my principles and be insincere and show my true self to people who i don't think are worthy of it. which seems necessary to be liked by everyone in this world. sorry that i'm rambling and i may come off as arrogant. i just haven't really had the opportunity to talk about this with any other INTP's. also, it seems that many INTP's and ENFP's get along very well even though they seem completely different. i thought this was interesting because it explains why i always seem to be attracted to men that are classic ENFP's. i'm currently seeing someone who's an ENFP and i don't know if soon he's gonna give up on me and move on to a girl who shows more emotion. enough about me. i took this test at my school, and the type description i got from them seems a lot more informative than the one on this site, so i'm gonna post some info that i think it missed. sorry if you guys have already read this on other sites.

-rely on thinking to develop principles that explain outcomes
-logical, impersonal, objectively critical, not apt to be convinced except by reasoning
-want to state the exact truth, but often make it so complicated that few can follow them
-may rely so much on logic that they overlook what they and others care about
-they may decide that something they value isn't important, because it isn't logical to care about it (extremely true)
-more interested in the challenge of reaching solutions to problems than seeing the solutions put to practical use
-if feeling values are ignored too much, they may build up pressure and explode in the most inappropriate ways


i'm also an enneagram type 5w4, if anyone was wondering

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meta wrote:
Post descriptions or anecdotes of your personality type here.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an ENPF, almost bordering on extreme really and much like the other poster (Crash, I think) my best friend is an INTP. And they're not as logical or scientific as the test makes them out to be, for instance, chemistry isn't really her strong point.

I agree on the personality traits though. Trying to get a straight answer from an INTP is almost impossible because they either don't trust you, or don't know themselves.

I know some of the INTPs feel "antisocial" but that's not really true either. Most of our classmates respect her originality and ideas, despite her um....sarcasm.

In any case, the test is not perfect, due to the circumstances involved in each person. I think maybe....60% accuracy? Besides, if you are doing the test, how could you answer?
Some of the questions (actually, most) require personality traits and the subject doing it might be -subjective-. If you think about it, our friends and family should do the test for us to get an accurate assesment instead. Or both parties should do it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tsu wrote:
Trying to get a straight answer from an INTP is almost impossible because they either don't trust you, or don't know themselves.

Or they have a different way of communicating their thoughts to you, that is pretty clear to them, but not to anyone else...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mimicry may have more correspondance with E9, not being able to communicate E5. I know that sometimes its hard to get across what I want, but as long as I work at it I can. And in truth since I share most of my ideas with my friends I've become much better at expressing them in a way that easily gets my point across.

In this instance you sometimes need to realize that the goal of communicating may be more improtant than explaining things in the exact proper form.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im an INFP, but I find that I tend mimick people in social situations as well. Im a natural born actor and imitator and its not just in social situations that I mimick people, I do when Im alone to amuse myself(Yeah I know "weirdo"! Razz ).

Im wondering if this tendency towards mimickry is really an INTP thing exclusivly or if its simply the sign of being a natural born actor?



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tsu wrote:
I'm an ENPF, almost bordering on extreme really and much like the other poster (Crash, I think) my best friend is an INTP. And they're not as logical or scientific as the test makes them out to be, for instance, chemistry isn't really her strong point.
I know some of the INTPs feel "antisocial" but that's not really true either. Most of our classmates respect her originality and ideas, despite her um....sarcasm.

I know an ENFP. They're easy to get along with.
And it sounds like she's in a good enviroment. I know I'm easier to get along with if people respect my ideas. And the sarcasm is probably an attempt to get people to think about her ideas, and come up with new ones, to feed back to her. Bounce that idea off her, and see what she says. Warning: the answer may be complicated, depending on her understanding of psychcology.
Most INTP's feel antisocial because they are not in an enviroment they feel comfortable in. My ideal enviroment would be quiet, with a close knit team of people feeding me the data that I need to work through problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, I am an INTP. I will take the full Myer-Briggs test shortly to make sure that the free version is indeed correct (I have taken two different tests and they both reveal INTP).

Most of the posted responses in this discussion appear to focus on introversion. Is this because introversion causes us both pain and pleasure. Who the heck wants to live in a cave? Well, apparently I do. At least some of the time. It does cause me some discomfort to be isolated for long periods, and so I am driven to seek out people from time to time. Herein lies the problem. I only really like 10 people. If they are busy, my sensitivity kicks in and I my calmness is out of the window. I feel isolated and anxious.

Has anyone ever experienced this situation?

Does anyone find INTP's to have funny thoughts?


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